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Dropped from Google due to Directory Changes on Site

vbignacio
Sat 17 November 2007, 12:21 am GMT +0100
I recently made some major changes in my article site, i upped the translated languages from five to 12, and transferred files from one directory to another. After that change, Google stopped sending me visitors. Is my site under penalty? Is this forever or just temporary?  :'( sob sob sob

olaf
Sat 17 November 2007, 07:51 am GMT +0100
You have duplicated content right?, this way it could be over my Youtube video site has up 2000 uniques day (google traffic) went down to 1000 earlier and since begin of nov. (overnight) to 300-500.

I think they changed the logarithm during the last update because  I see many differences since them

vbignacio
Sat 17 November 2007, 10:04 am GMT +0100
mine was just fine before. only after i made the site change which was about five days ago.

olaf
Sat 17 November 2007, 10:07 am GMT +0100
mine was just fine before. only after i made the site change which was about five days ago.

maybe the new logarithm has noticed the duplicated content because of your change.

maybe you need to wait and the traffic comes back


vbignacio
Sat 17 November 2007, 10:24 am GMT +0100
yeah, i hope it will return.

edit: i checked and i found out that i still get a few visitors from Google but the results page that my site is on is way far behind.

vbignacio
Sun 18 November 2007, 03:18 am GMT +0100
i wonder if the sudden increase in pages, from six pages each url into 13, is the culprit. can i ask everyones opinion on this? thanks!

GiorgosK
Sun 18 November 2007, 03:01 pm GMT +0100
No I don't think its a bad thing that you increased pages
And I think google is smart enough to know that you actually increased the pages with adding new languages

Did some of the old URLs change ?? (maybe you can check your 404 errors and see maybe you get hits where there was once valid pages ?)

Did you check your serps ? maybe you dropped in serps and its actually irrelevant to your changes

But maybe also google is still trying to determine (because of your changes) where to RANK you ...
How old is the site ??

OLAF: duplicate content penalty does not apply within the same site ...
I have seen discussed it in an interview with Vanesa Fox (former employee of Google)

vbignacio
Sun 18 November 2007, 10:58 pm GMT +0100
i checked their last visit to my site, and it was nov 12th. the following day, they stopped sending me visitors, only a handful and has been like that ever since.

i transferred some files but i made a 301 redirect to the new location so people will still find the pages as Nik has taught me.

my article site is about seven months old and has a pagerank of 4.

ventureskills
Mon 19 November 2007, 08:54 am GMT +0100
Vince did you buy these articles?

GiorgosK
Mon 19 November 2007, 09:46 am GMT +0100
I THINK
Since your site is quite new (7 months old) it could be part of the google dance ... that is the process for them to determine what position your site deserves to be on (Rank of you site in SERPs)

is it still in their index ? site:domain.com
do you still have SOME traffic from them ?

vbignacio
Mon 19 November 2007, 02:46 pm GMT +0100
Vince did you buy these articles?

i didnt tim. it comes from a feed from an article directory. pretty much duplicate content there.

is it still in their index ? site:domain.com
do you still have SOME traffic from them ?

yeah, its still in there. and i still get a few visitors from them from time to time.

ventureskills
Mon 19 November 2007, 03:19 pm GMT +0100
it comes from a feed from an article directory. pretty much duplicate content there.
there is your answer then :D

vbignacio
Mon 19 November 2007, 10:12 pm GMT +0100
it was duplicate content even before, yet i get 200-300 uniques from google esp. from translated pages. so they caught me using duplicate content when i made the changes as what olaf said?

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