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olaf
Sat 1 July 2006, 10:50 am GMT +0200
Hello,

last time I noticed several webpages (mostly from india) with a PR higher then 4 while the homepage is only a 3 or 4, like this one has a PR6:
http://www.seoindia.org/links/computer-software.html

while the main/hompage has only a PR4:
http://www.seoindia.org/

Is this high pagerank a mistake by google?

Note that the main page has 298 inbound links and otherone no inboundlinks. Is this a trick, some kind of forwarding?


Nikolas
Sat 1 July 2006, 01:29 pm GMT +0200
This is something very common when you have many different ips link to your links page, but in this situation is fake pr.

So let's say that the home page has pr 3, and there are 20 inner pages that are linked from there (links, products, etc.) In normal those pages will get a pr 2-3. But those folks are doing permanent redirects from all those pages to their links page when the visitor is the google bot :)

This way they pass the pagerank of all the inner pages to their links page. They get a high pr to that page, so they can link exchange with high pr sites, etc.

You can check that by searching the page's url in google. As you can see the result is another page.

BTW I know this may sounds inspiring to some people, but it is a black hat technique, and you can be banned very easilly for doing this.


olaf
Sat 1 July 2006, 01:34 pm GMT +0200
Thanks Nick,

this information is very usefull (I'm wondering how do you know that), I think this kind of technique is one of the reason of my bad feelings if I'm getting offers from companies out of this region...

Nikolas
Sat 1 July 2006, 01:36 pm GMT +0200
Thanks Nick,

this information is very usefull (I'm wondering how do you know that), I think this kind of technique is one of the reason of my bad feelings if I'm getting offers from companies out of this region...

I've learned that by our forum, as there was a member in the past that bought a site with fake pagerank.....

As for the region thing, that is no correct. You just have to check some things before doing a link exchange. There are so many scams out there.

olaf
Sat 1 July 2006, 01:43 pm GMT +0200
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As for the region thing, that is no correct. You just have to check some things before doing a link exchange. There are so many scams out there.

it's not only about link exachanges but all services comming from there...

Don't get me wrong, its not bad at all, but these things are the reason why asked this here a lot of these scams or comming from there, everyone who is busy with SEO knows that its a lot of work. That will say SEO is not done within a few minutes and not for handfull of dollars...

Everytime if someone asked me to give him a discount over my work, I must think at this kind of cheap offers for seo and webdev.

(But I'm happy that here are a lot of REAL people, doing real webdev work) ;)

Mind_nl
Sun 2 July 2006, 01:41 pm GMT +0200
It depends on how you look at this, most fake pageranks are done by doing redirects from other domains. I found this tool a while back to check for fake pagerank: http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank.html but it will tell you that the pagerank for the page from india is correct, because the domain of the page and the domain of the real PR are the same, still you can see that they are from different pages...

olaf
Sun 2 July 2006, 01:50 pm GMT +0200
yes it looks fine but there are to different url's while the tool is looking for the domain...

Mind_nl, don't forget its really hard to get a PR6 and while all inbound links poiting to the main site and not to the link site. the main site is a lower rank the link site, all real sites that I know having a higher rank on the main site...

Nikolas
Sun 2 July 2006, 01:55 pm GMT +0200
The most easiest way to check if a webpage has fake pr is to search the url in google, and see if the result has the same url.

olaf
Sun 2 July 2006, 10:34 pm GMT +0200
The most easiest way to check if a webpage has fake pr is to search the url in google, and see if the result has the same url.

like this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seoindia.org%2Flinks%2Fcomputer-software.html&btnG=Google+Search

Nikolas
Mon 3 July 2006, 10:13 am GMT +0200
The most easiest way to check if a webpage has fake pr is to search the url in google, and see if the result has the same url.

That's right. As you can see you get one result for /links/index.html page instead of /links/computer-software.html
like this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seoindia.org%2Flinks%2Fcomputer-software.html&btnG=Google+Search

olaf
Mon 3 July 2006, 10:22 am GMT +0200
Yes that is what I see too, Thank you Nick!

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