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I just bought a new server is this a good server? Dell canceled!!!

soulwatcher
Sat 26 May 2007, 02:48 am GMT +0200
I just bought a Dell server with the following specs. With tax and everything it was $580.88. I know it could use another 1gb of ram but do the rest of the specs look ok? Its a tower so I am going to have to look for tower colocation. A 1u server was way out of my budget. It would have been $500+ more for the same server.

PowerEdge SC440
Dual Core Intel? Pentium?D 925, 2x2MB Cache, 3.0GHz, 800MHz FSB, No Operating System  $976.00  1  $976.00  
PowerEdge SC440  Dual Core Intel? Pentium?D 925, 2x2MB Cache, 3.0GHz, 800MHz FSB


Memory  1GB DDR2, 667MHz, 2X512MB Single Ranked DIMMs


Keyboard  No Keyboard Option


Primary Hard Drive  160GB, SATA, 3.5-inch, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive


Hard Drive Controller  Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID


Floppy Drive  No Floppy Drive


Operating System  No Operating System


Mouse  No Mouse


Network Adapter  On-Board Single Gigabit Network Adapter


CD/DVD Drive  48X CD-ROM Drive


System Documentation  Electronic Documentation and OpenManage CD Kit


2nd Hard Drive  160GB, SATA, 3.5-inch, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive


Hard Drive Configuration  Onboard SATA, 2 Drives connected to Onboard SATA Controller No RAID


Hardware Support Services  1Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite


Installation Support Services  No Installation Assessment  

olaf
Sat 26 May 2007, 08:40 am GMT +0200
I have the smaller version SC430 with 2GB RAM and this one works great!

soulwatcher
Sat 26 May 2007, 08:56 am GMT +0200
 :) I am glad to hear. I have the money to buy more ram but I cant get it past the finance department (wife) lol. I will let things blow over a bit then I will hit her up for some ram lol.

4 years ago I bought a Dell Power Edge SC600. It came with P4 1.8GHZ 256mb of ram and a 40GB hard drive. Here it is 4 years latter and I am getting twice the machine for $9 more. The real kicker is I sold it (SC600) on EBAY for $450 after owning it for 2 years. I did modify it but it ran 24/7 for 2 years straight and I still got $450 for it.

olaf
Sat 26 May 2007, 08:59 am GMT +0200
I gues you can't repead this sale profit after 2 years :)

The machine was good with 1gb for regular sites, I needed the second gig for the proxies

soulwatcher
Sat 26 May 2007, 09:05 am GMT +0200
Olaf do you own it or are you renting it?

olaf
Sat 26 May 2007, 09:10 am GMT +0200
Olaf do you own it or are you renting it?

it's a dedicated machine

Nikolas
Sat 26 May 2007, 11:37 am GMT +0200
As you don't have too much memory you can try installing two web servers (on different ips)

One with regular installations and modules for the sites, and one with minimal configuration only for images and static content.

this can help much with the memory usage and will make your sites faster.

soulwatcher
Sat 26 May 2007, 11:45 am GMT +0200
Thanks for the tip Nikolas :). I plan on setting up everything at my house first and making sure everything works. And then next time we get paid I will hit her up for some ram LOL. And then co-locate it.

soulwatcher
Sun 27 May 2007, 04:53 am GMT +0200
I can not even express how disapointed I am in Dell for canceling my order. I called and the guy couldnt give me a valid answer so the HELL with Dell!!! And HELLO Newegg, if Dell does not want my money Newegg will take it. I just ordered the following parts.

AMD Athlon 4800 X2 AM2
Foxconn MB AM2
2GB of DDR 800 Ram
2 160GB Western Digital SATA 3.0 Raid Hard drives
A Sweet Looking Micro ATX case no power supply
Athena Power  500watt Power supply

Everything was charged and processed on my credit card this time I have a order comformation number and everything. So I guess I am going to be building myself a server instead of buying a Dell.

olaf
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:37 am GMT +0200
hehe, never said that DELL is a good company :)

soulwatcher
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:48 am GMT +0200
 The thing I dont under stand is why did they cancel me? It was a bran new never been used credit card. The Dell guy said to me call back on monday and reorder again. But I thought to myself why am I going to try and order from a company who didnt want my first order. Oh well the AMD Athlon 4800+ X2 is alot faster than a Pentium D 925 anyway. Only bummer is I have to put it together myself its not prebuilt and its desktop parts not real server parts.

vbignacio
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:49 am GMT +0200
i love putting together my own rig. i feel more in-control.

and you dont have to wait again before the wife shells out some more for the extra ram.

olaf
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:51 am GMT +0200
and you dont have to wait again before the wife shells out some more for the extra ram.

the bad point with servers having a brand is that you have pay for the name too...

vbignacio
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:54 am GMT +0200
anyway, is there a difference buying a factory-built server and putting together your own with the same specs?

soulwatcher
Sun 27 May 2007, 09:57 am GMT +0200
i love putting together my own rig. i feel more in-control.

and you dont have to wait again before the wife shells out some more for the extra ram.

Yeah, believe it or not it was even $40 cheaper than the Dell. I am not too worried about the desktop parts in the server world. My inlaws have had their computer for over 2 years and its been on 24/7 they never turn it off. Plus I ordered Raid hard drives, I am going to run them software Raid 1. And I plan on hopefully needing a bigger faster server next year.

soulwatcher
Sun 27 May 2007, 10:00 am GMT +0200
anyway, is there a difference buying a factory-built server and putting together your own with the same specs?

No I dont think so, If anything I got a faster processor, more ram, faster hard drives plus their Raid hard drives with 16mb cache, and a better power supply. With one sweet looking case.

olaf
Sun 27 May 2007, 10:36 am GMT +0200
anyway, is there a difference buying a factory-built server and putting together your own with the same specs?

No I dont think so, If anything I got a faster processor, more ram, faster hard drives plus their Raid hard drives with 16mb cache, and a better power supply. With one sweet looking case.

but you need to know which hardware works fine together

soulwatcher
Tue 29 May 2007, 10:37 am GMT +0200
 :'( everything shipped but the case and 3.0 SATA cable. So it looks like I will not be putting my server together by friday as I took the standard shipping.

vbignacio
Tue 29 May 2007, 01:56 pm GMT +0200
very different here where i live. you can just drive to a computer parts warehouse and buy everything you need. no more waiting.

olaf
Tue 29 May 2007, 01:58 pm GMT +0200
very different here where i live. you can just drive to a computer parts warehouse and buy everything you need. no more waiting.

I guess he is shipping the server to the datacenter...

soulwatcher
Tue 29 May 2007, 10:38 pm GMT +0200
I have a local computer store where I live but their prices are alot higher than newegg. For my same processor they want $159 and I payed $129 through newegg. Just that one part alone almost pays for the shipping.

P.S. I am going to build it at home and then ship it to the data center.

vbignacio
Wed 30 May 2007, 09:59 am GMT +0200
yeah. well back here in manila, philippines, theres this street where all the computer parts retailers have their own stores. that street is geek heaven i tell you. lots of people with glasses on. anyway, since competition there is tight, they keep their prices very low to get sales.

Nikolas
Wed 30 May 2007, 01:14 pm GMT +0200
yeah. well back here in manila, philippines, theres this street where all the computer parts retailers have their own stores. that street is geek heaven i tell you. lots of people with glasses on. anyway, since competition there is tight, they keep their prices very low to get sales.

That's cool. I think in England there are shops that work the same way, and their prices of course are very cheap :)

soulwatcher
Thu 31 May 2007, 04:11 am GMT +0200
You guys are luckey all of the local shops by my house are at least 20% higher. On a side note I cant wait to test this beast out. I am sure its going to be a very fast server.

soulwatcher
Tue 5 June 2007, 08:19 am GMT +0200
 Well I had all the parts by friday and spent the better part of the weekend trying to work the bugs out. All I can say is I will never buy another AMD server again. It gave me headache after headache, but its up and running now and all is good. At least I know how to fix/make it work with linux if I ever had to reformat it. I did a server bench mark on it my old server could only do a 138 using the same test the new AMD server benched a 275 8). So its alot faster than the old server.

olaf
Tue 5 June 2007, 08:36 am GMT +0200
the motherboards with AMD and SATA brought me a problem too

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