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Nikolas
Thu 10 November 2005, 05:43 pm GMT +0100
Well I believe this is good news for everyone.

From now and on every member will be able to set an ad code, which will be displayed on every topic that this member starts.

The user banners will be displayed in the top banner area.

This way, you get the ad revenue from every topic that you start!

To start visit the member profile area and change your ad share code.


Kinky
Thu 10 November 2005, 07:58 pm GMT +0100
That's great!

Can I put the ad code from a program like adSense?

Nikolas
Thu 10 November 2005, 08:00 pm GMT +0100
Yes you can, if it is ok with their TOS. Adsense specifically allows this action(as far as I know).

But be carefull, in the ad code field you should put a page that will have the code for a 468 x 60 banner. Not the code itself :)

maro25
Fri 11 November 2005, 10:34 am GMT +0100
I would suggest to limit what the user can put in the adshare code! This way, you will get a lot of people putting ugly stuff and 'hacking' your forum! I have a similar thing in my forum, but I am only sharing adsense revenues. Members need only to put their adsense member id and their adsense ads will be shown directly

Nikolas
Fri 11 November 2005, 10:45 am GMT +0100
Propably you are right, but how someone would be able to hack the forum?

The only thing that it could be done is breaking the frame, but anyways I preview any ad is puted

maro25
Fri 11 November 2005, 10:53 am GMT +0100
What I meant by 'hack' is design hack that's why I have put it in ''
A member can render your site unreadable! And maybe even by mistake, writing incorrect HTML or something, anyways good luck :)

Nikolas
Fri 11 November 2005, 10:59 am GMT +0100
Well I suppose we'll see how this goes, and if we have any problem, we will switch it to adsense.

Qusta
Wed 16 November 2005, 08:43 pm GMT +0100
Very nice mod.

I have never seen it again, and I suppose it is a very good motivation to have active members in the forum.

Nikolas
Thu 17 November 2005, 11:34 am GMT +0100
Very nice mod.

I have never seen it again, and I suppose it is a very good motivation to have active members in the forum.

Yeah that's the reason I've put it in the first place.

Luis
Sat 11 March 2006, 03:12 am GMT +0100
hmm ok I have a question, what code do I add? Its not the code Google offers right?

Nikolas
Sat 11 March 2006, 11:25 am GMT +0100
You add the url of a page that has your ads.

It is ok if that ad is from adsense, but have in mind that your ad will be iframed so you must have target=_blank or top to all the links

Luis
Sat 11 March 2006, 09:43 pm GMT +0100
oh ok i see...

YMC
Sun 26 March 2006, 06:41 am GMT +0200
At the moment I don't have an Adsense account. Any chance I could make and use a banner for my own site?

Nikolas
Sun 26 March 2006, 11:59 am GMT +0200
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At the moment I don't have an Adsense account. Any chance I could make and use a banner for my own site?

Of course. For the ad sharing thing, you are using a URL that has your ads. So you can put there any advertisment you like :)

EDIT : Some typos

YMC
Sun 26 March 2006, 09:30 pm GMT +0200
Cool.

So then would I just need to make and HTML page that just has the banner on it?

Nikolas
Sun 26 March 2006, 09:55 pm GMT +0200
That's right, yes :)

YMC
Sun 26 March 2006, 10:55 pm GMT +0200
Hmmm, I want to change my header anyway so now I have even more reason.

Off to the design board.

Slinger
Wed 29 March 2006, 08:38 pm GMT +0200
I like this idea.  This is completely free?

Nikolas
Wed 29 March 2006, 08:49 pm GMT +0200
Of course.

The idea is to help the people that help us grow :)

kirby145
Wed 31 May 2006, 05:40 am GMT +0200
that is really cool. useful too. what if you put multiple banners on the page would it choose raandomly one? or just the toip one?

Nikolas
Wed 31 May 2006, 11:32 am GMT +0200
No you should place one, or use a banner rotator script.

The ad share thing displays a page where your banner exists. You can use this with a rotation script to rotate banners.

olaf
Wed 31 May 2006, 11:49 am GMT +0200
that is really cool. useful too. what if you put multiple banners on the page would it choose raandomly one? or just the toip one?

No, you have to place there only one URL, if you need a random system you have to write a dynamic page (f.e. with PHP) ;)

and of course you have to start your own threads...

vbignacio
Wed 31 May 2006, 05:55 pm GMT +0200
now i wonder why just a few members make use of this useful feature...

maybe they dont know how to make it work?

olaf
Wed 31 May 2006, 08:45 pm GMT +0200
now i wonder why just a few members make use of this useful feature...

maybe they dont know how to make it work?

I think it's because only a few people here are starting often their own threads

olaf
Thu 15 June 2006, 02:34 pm GMT +0200
About the add code that will show up a page with some adsense advertisement...

How does Googgle what is the content of a page if this "banner" page is empty for the rest?

Nikolas
Thu 15 June 2006, 02:41 pm GMT +0200
Google is grabbing the page that shows the ad whenever is inside a frame or not through javascript(they even see the referer).

olaf
Thu 15 June 2006, 02:53 pm GMT +0200
Google is grabbing the page that shows the ad whenever is inside a frame or not through javascript(they even see the referer).
Ok never thought that this is possible (maybe because I didn't used IFRAME elements so much)

I will give it a try...

olaf
Thu 15 June 2006, 04:30 pm GMT +0200
Just released a snippet to use the google adsense code together with your own banners:
http://www.webdigity.com/index.php?action=tutorial;code=25

Nikolas
Thu 15 June 2006, 06:25 pm GMT +0200
Thanks for the snippet Olaf. I've just edit it with the google_page_url = document.location; so it will work better for webdigity (framed pages)

olaf
Thu 15 June 2006, 10:28 pm GMT +0200
Thanks for the snippet Olaf. I've just edit it with the google_page_url = document.location; so it will work better for webdigity (framed pages)
Do I need this option?

Nikolas
Thu 15 June 2006, 10:51 pm GMT +0200
Yes you need it, because the advertisment is displayed using <IFRAME>

olaf
Thu 15 June 2006, 10:54 pm GMT +0200
Yes you need it, because the advertisment is displayed using <IFRAME>

If I check the manual there is a different information :(

offtopic: what is "welcome" in  greece language (need to test a translation script)

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 12:52 pm GMT +0200
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If I check the manual there is a different information

What manual are you refering to?

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what is "welcome" in  greece language

???????????

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:08 pm GMT +0200
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What manual are you refering to?
The dutch Google adsense manual


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???????????
Thanks

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:10 pm GMT +0200
Check the adsense code page. There is an option " Ads will be placed on a framed page"

You should click that to make this work with the webdigity ad sharing module

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:19 pm GMT +0200
Check the adsense code page. There is an option " Ads will be placed on a framed page"

You should click that to make this work with the webdigity ad sharing module
I know this option, and I contacted the (dutch) adsense support department, they told me that this option is to use for the parent frame...

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:21 pm GMT +0200
I don't get it.

So if you click on a framed ad that does not has this option it will be displayed in the whole page?

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:29 pm GMT +0200
I tried some translation services:

from the manual:
By selecting this option our crawlers will examine the contents of the correct frame and can we because of this relevant advertisements reflect. To be able give relevant advertisements for your site, the advertisement code must be incorporated in the head frame.

from the google adsense support:
It has not been permitted editors the behaviour or modify the orientation of Google-advertenties. For that purpose also placing the adSense advertentiecode in a script for floating advertisements or modifying the orientation of advertisements belongs using hid zoekwoorden or IFRAMES.

sounds bad or not?

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:31 pm GMT +0200
It's not bad. They dont allow hidden IFRAMEs. Ours are not hidden.

So this option helps the revelance of the ads (it sais to the crawler to crawl the parent page), so I guess is good to use it with webdigity's ad sharing module.

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:35 pm GMT +0200
It's not bad. They dont allow hidden IFRAMEs. Ours are not hidden.

So this option helps the revelance of the ads (it sais to the crawler to crawl the parent page), so I guess is good to use it with webdigity's ad sharing module.
I wil add the frame option to mine script too, by the way the ads are OK if I check the pages...

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:45 pm GMT +0200
Thats funny with the setting

google_page_url = document.location;

I see on all pages the same ads (one CPM ad and one from google)

If I remove the setting tham I have diff. ads and these are more web development related

at last I tried my page outside the Iframe, and what do you think? I get the same ads as with this setting inside the IFRAME!

I remove this setting (again)

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 01:55 pm GMT +0200
I think this image is a good example that the code works better without the setting "google_page_url = document.location;"
 8)


Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:15 pm GMT +0200
Strange. Propably you have to wait a little (so it will crawl it again) or they have allready adjusted the code to automatically use the parent page.

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:31 pm GMT +0200
... just got a mail from the support, and they told me that all this things are not allowed... :(
Don't think that he took a look on the example I send him...

About the setting, I checked it several times and if I revisit the same page about google page creator I get again the good ads while the setting is removed. I think at the moment the risk to get problems with adsense is bigger than the few $ I'm able to earn with these ads... I will continue with graphical banners.

Maybe its better to place some "soft" warning to the snippet (about using the google adsense code)

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:39 pm GMT +0200
That's very strange, and propably the man who responded to your mail hadn't undertood well.

I am saying this because I have allready asked google about that, and tolled me that it is ok, and there are other ad revenue sharing communities that use adsense with no problem.

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:42 pm GMT +0200
That's very strange, and propably the man who responded to your mail hadn't undertood well.

I am saying this because I have allready asked google about that, and tolled me that it is ok, and there are other ad revenue sharing communities that use adsense with no problem.

I agree with you that I think that guy from Google is not really professional, I will wait for the response from my last comment to adsense

olaf
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:45 pm GMT +0200
... just got the mail from adsense...

Het understood what we want to do and he is repeating that's not allowed to do that this way! I will tell him your experience Nick.

Nikolas
Fri 16 June 2006, 02:46 pm GMT +0200
Ok, I am waiting.

olaf
Tue 20 June 2006, 10:41 am GMT +0200
Just got an e-mail from adsense that revenue sharing models like this

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=519

are allowed!
(Look to me as the same then on webdigity)

[Adsense code = On]

Nikolas
Tue 20 June 2006, 10:44 am GMT +0200
Good :)

olaf
Tue 20 June 2006, 10:51 am GMT +0200
Good :)
yes but they use a diff. way:

you have to enter you ID and the channel from your adsense account, It's not a IFRAME.

Nikolas
Tue 20 June 2006, 10:58 am GMT +0200
I know, but I don't think this is a problem (at least that I was told when I ask adsense's support)

The reason I made it this way, is because I wanted to give the opportunity to people to promote their sites instead of their adsense (after all there are many people that don't have adsense or they are banned)

geezmo
Mon 11 September 2006, 04:26 am GMT +0200
This is really cool. I'm interested to use this mod in my own forum too. I'll contact you Nikolas about this, but I just have one question. Is it possible to limit where the thread is started? I mean I want to specify the folders where members can start a thread and "earn" the right to have their Adsense ads posted. I don't want my members to post nonsense stuff in the advertising folder just to show their adsense.

Nikolas
Mon 11 September 2006, 09:22 am GMT +0200
This is really cool. I'm interested to use this mod in my own forum too. I'll contact you Nikolas about this, but I just have one question. Is it possible to limit where the thread is started? I mean I want to specify the folders where members can start a thread and "earn" the right to have their Adsense ads posted. I don't want my members to post nonsense stuff in the advertising folder just to show their adsense.

Not there isn't something like this, but I guess it could be added :)

Providence
Wed 13 September 2006, 12:25 pm GMT +0200
Where can I find a mod like this? I am really interested in this.

Nikolas
Wed 13 September 2006, 12:31 pm GMT +0200
Where can I find a mod like this? I am really interested in this.

Please don't post about this modification here.

You can use the SMF board for stuff like that.

This modification is a custom one that I made before several months, so in order to share it I will have to write it again from scratch...

Maybe I will do that in the future if I have some spare time, or someone pay me to do so :)

Providence
Wed 13 September 2006, 01:02 pm GMT +0200
haha. Im sorry Nik. I think I will wait ;) I also want to ask if anyone here uses this ad revenue sharing program.

Nikolas
Wed 13 September 2006, 01:04 pm GMT +0200
haha. Im sorry Nik. I think I will wait ;) I also want to ask if anyone here uses this ad revenue sharing program.
That's ok ;)

Yeah there are many members that use this program (actually I think most of the active members use it)

Meth0d
Thu 14 September 2006, 06:59 pm GMT +0200
i use the ad share program here on WebDigity and i get many clicks through it, probably more from here then my own sites.

olaf
Thu 14 September 2006, 10:19 pm GMT +0200
i use the ad share program here on WebDigity and i get many clicks through it, probably more from here then my own sites.
So you're saying that many people clicking you're banners at the top?

Meth0d
Thu 14 September 2006, 10:31 pm GMT +0200
in incredibly large numbers...? no.. my site has little traffic anyway in comparison to this one, i simply get more click throughs from here than the front page of my other sites (lots of people find me from here as well)

olaf
Thu 14 September 2006, 10:55 pm GMT +0200
in incredibly large numbers...? no.. my site has little traffic anyway in comparison to this one, i simply get more click throughs from here than the front page of my other sites (lots of people find me from here as well)

I 'm showing the same banner rotator on my own site and I think I have more click-throughs :(

Meth0d
Thu 14 September 2006, 11:06 pm GMT +0200
why sad face? this is a good thing!

olaf
Thu 14 September 2006, 11:11 pm GMT +0200
why sad face? this is a good thing!
I think banners are not working, I have much more clicks with text links and adsense...

dust
Wed 14 March 2007, 10:58 pm GMT +0100
Yes you can, if it is ok with their TOS. Adsense specifically allows this action(as far as I know).

But be carefull, in the ad code field you should put a page that will have the code for a 468 x 60 banner. Not the code itself :)

I thought Adsense prohibits placing its ads in frames.

Nikolas
Wed 14 March 2007, 11:03 pm GMT +0100
I thought Adsense prohibits placing its ads in frames.

I don't think using adsense in iframes is prohibited, and it wasn't in the past.

But to be honest I haven't checked if that changed lately.

The post you quoted is from 2005. Now the rules may have been changed ;)

dust
Thu 15 March 2007, 12:07 am GMT +0100
I thought Adsense prohibits placing its ads in frames.

I don't think using adsense in iframes is prohibited, and it wasn't in the past.

But to be honest I haven't checked if that changed lately.

The post you quoted is from 2005. Now the rules may have been changed ;)

I think I was wrong. We can use frames. See https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=32734&ctx=en:search&query=frames&topic=&type=f

GiorgosK
Thu 12 April 2007, 12:12 pm GMT +0200
I have confirmed with adsense support myself that iframes are allowed check here for all details

I just realized there such a thing as target=_top
I was using my own custom little hack and adsense approved it.  Strange if they had this why didn't they inform me ... anyway ...

I setup this hopefully I did it correctly :)

olaf
Thu 12 April 2007, 12:23 pm GMT +0200
I have confirmed with adsense support myself that iframes are allowed check here for all details

I just realized there such a thing as target=_top
I was using my own custom little hack and adsense approved it.  Strange if they had this why didn't they inform me ... anyway ...

I setup this hopefully I did it correctly :)

I think it is OK to use them (because other big forums have this program too), the problem is that their support didn't know so much about frames and HTML. The answer they send gave you is totally different from the one I got from Adsense Netherland. I decided to not use adsense here, because the possible earnings via the postings here are to small that I will take the risk to get into problems ;)

Nikolas
Thu 12 April 2007, 02:14 pm GMT +0200
Some times adsense support people do not know exactly what they are talking about :)

The best is to keep track of your support mails from them, so in case of a problem you can send them the ticket back....

olaf
Thu 12 April 2007, 02:21 pm GMT +0200
I keep all mails from Google in my Google mail account (this way I can say later; just look in my mail and see what you told me before, lol)

GiorgosK
Thu 12 April 2007, 04:50 pm GMT +0200
What if they go and erase that email before they make that claim and then you have no proof

we are somehow controlled by them in more than one ways, its scary

olaf
Thu 12 April 2007, 09:53 pm GMT +0200
What if they go and erase that email before they make that claim and then you have no proof

we are somehow controlled by them in more than one ways, its scary

hehe yes maybe, but don't forget the privacy law in US is very good, I think only the government is able to read your mail without to get judged :)

(I like Google very much :D)

detoam
Mon 28 May 2007, 05:49 pm GMT +0200
I have never participated in the same kind of thing before so I am a bit confused as to what am I supposed to enter.
My banner is located here http://www.seodigg.n33dlink.com/archives/234-Best-Webmaster-contest.html
So what do I enter?

Nikolas
Mon 28 May 2007, 08:50 pm GMT +0200
I have never participated in the same kind of thing before so I am a bit confused as to what am I supposed to enter.
My banner is located here http://www.seodigg.n33dlink.com/archives/234-Best-Webmaster-contest.html
So what do I enter?

You should enter a URL of a page that contains your banner

detoam
Mon 28 May 2007, 09:50 pm GMT +0200
Okay so I did good then.

Nikolas
Mon 28 May 2007, 10:00 pm GMT +0200
Okay so I did good then.

No you entered your whole site. It should have a page with only one banner. Please change it.

detoam
Mon 28 May 2007, 10:02 pm GMT +0200
okay will do. Sorry.

Done.

Nikolas
Tue 29 May 2007, 12:28 am GMT +0200
okay will do. Sorry.

Done.

Now it is ok. Thanks :)

detoam
Tue 29 May 2007, 12:52 am GMT +0200
Sorry for the screw up I have never seen an ad share program like that so I was confused. It is an awesome thing though. Thank you.

olaf
Tue 29 May 2007, 08:21 am GMT +0200
Sorry for the screw up I have never seen an ad share program like that so I was confused. It is an awesome thing though. Thank you.
yes it is, create a lot of new (meaningful) threads and your banner is live with all this threads! ;)

olaf
Tue 29 May 2007, 08:22 am GMT +0200
I guess it's because of the text area on that page, this suggests to add some code and not a link

detoam
Tue 29 May 2007, 10:57 am GMT +0200
Yeah that's what I thought at first. I have created a nice code for it, but it wouldn't take it. Made me scratch my head. It's okay though. That's why asking is always good.

olaf
Fri 1 June 2007, 04:30 pm GMT +0200
just found this in the TOS of google:

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You shall not display any Ad Unit on a page that contains Ads associated with another Google AdSense customer (e.g., Your Web hosting company), unless authorized to do so by Google.

Don't know if this is new, but thet are saying: not 2 or more different Publ. ID's on the same page.

Nikolas
Fri 1 June 2007, 06:25 pm GMT +0200
just found this in the TOS of google:

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You shall not display any Ad Unit on a page that contains Ads associated with another Google AdSense customer (e.g., Your Web hosting company), unless authorized to do so by Google.

Don't know if this is new, but thet are saying: not 2 or more different Publ. ID's on the same page.

I think this is an old thing. After all there are so many revenue sharing sites by now. Maybe I should contact Google again :)

Graham Slam
Thu 7 June 2007, 06:50 pm GMT +0200
Just posting to see what my ad share looks like.  I did actually code it out.  Is there a limit to how many links?  I wasn't going to post more that 3 or 5.

Nikolas
Thu 7 June 2007, 06:58 pm GMT +0200
Graham, your ad is being displayed only to threads that you start. Check yours here

It should be a 468x60 page that contains a banner or an advertisement that you want.

abaculus
Fri 22 June 2007, 11:29 am GMT +0200
I think this with the user banner is a great idea (much better than adsense revenue shering).
I have never seen something like this on other forums.
Thank you for that oportunity. I have added my banner, hope to be ok and aproved

Nikolas
Fri 22 June 2007, 11:39 am GMT +0200
Abaculus, thanks for your good words :)

Your banner is working

Nikolas
Fri 22 June 2007, 11:39 am GMT +0200
Oh, and thanks for your donation ;)

WhiteEagle
Thu 8 November 2007, 04:05 am GMT +0100
Went and added a banner I created on AdDesigner.com. Great site to design banners on, and free to boot!

vbignacio
Thu 8 November 2007, 09:02 am GMT +0100
Went and added a banner I created on AdDesigner.com. Great site to design banners on, and free to boot!

show us. where is the link to the thread that you started?

ventureskills
Thu 8 November 2007, 06:49 pm GMT +0100
http://www.webdigity.com/index.php/topic,7230.0.I+graduated%21.html
is a Nathan started thread with his banner ;)

WhiteEagle
Thu 8 November 2007, 09:28 pm GMT +0100
Soon my banners will be designed by Sean Chiarot of Sean Chiarot Graphics.

vbignacio
Fri 9 November 2007, 12:49 am GMT +0100
http://www.webdigity.com/index.php/topic,7230.0.I+graduated%21.html
is a Nathan started thread with his banner ;)

thanks tim.

nathan, im not seeing any banner. its not appearing.

WhiteEagle
Fri 9 November 2007, 09:04 am GMT +0100
what do ya mean...it showed up for me :P

Mind_nl
Fri 9 November 2007, 11:18 am GMT +0100
I can see your banner Nathan. Maybe you should improve your ad a bit to make it more clear what you are offering.

vbignacio
Fri 9 November 2007, 03:56 pm GMT +0100
i viewed it in Firefox and IE and i still cant see it. there is just a symbol of a broken image and the word Leet Link. when i click on it, it just displays a 404 Not Found. "The requested URL /http\://www.leetlink.com/ was not found on this server."

here is the link: http://joffeepublish.com/http%5C://www.leetlink.com/


Mind_nl
Fri 9 November 2007, 04:09 pm GMT +0100
where are you looking, its on the top of the page at: http://www.webdigity.com/index.php/topic,7230.0.I+graduated%21.html

edit: I see the broken image now as well. Looks like he's using some kind of banner rotator, if you refresh the page a few times you'll see some of his other banners.

vbignacio
Fri 9 November 2007, 05:39 pm GMT +0100
good. i thought he's excluding my country from seeing his banner. LOL

WhiteEagle
Sat 10 November 2007, 09:22 am GMT +0100
quote author=Mind_nl link=topic=724.msg33269#msg33269 date=1194620949]
where are you looking, its on the top of the page at: http://www.webdigity.com/index.php/topic,7230.0.I+graduated%21.html

edit: I see the broken image now as well. Looks like he's using some kind of banner rotator, if you refresh the page a few times you'll see some of his other banners.
Quote

Yeah, I'm using Olaf's code from his tutorial. ;)

olaf
Sat 10 November 2007, 11:03 am GMT +0100
You need to enter valid links:

http://www.domain.com/page.html

vbignacio
Sat 10 November 2007, 12:42 pm GMT +0100
this is the link in the no show banner:

http://joffeepublish.com/http%5C://www.leetlink.com/

WhiteEagle
Sun 11 November 2007, 08:32 am GMT +0100
should be fixed now! ;)

vbignacio
Sun 11 November 2007, 02:46 pm GMT +0100
and nathan, you should start more threads so we can see more of your banner.

WhiteEagle
Mon 12 November 2007, 09:58 am GMT +0100
Whenever I have the chance and a good topic, I tend to do so... ;)

tritrain
Mon 17 March 2008, 01:06 am GMT +0100
What is the revenue sharing percentage here?  I maintain a gigantic list of Adsense Revenue Sharing sites and want to add this Webdigity's info.

Here's the link if you want it:  http://www.reviewerofsites.com/the-internets-largest-list-of-adsense-revenue-sharing-sites/

Nikolas
Mon 17 March 2008, 08:13 am GMT +0100
Nice list tritrain ;)

Here you get 100% impressions of your banner in every thread you start.

olaf
Tue 18 March 2008, 12:14 pm GMT +0100
thanks for the link, I found this one http://www.reviewerofsites.com/list-of-free-press-release-distribution-sites/

much better than revenue share :)

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