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Website Over Designed?

samiotis
Sat 7 June 2008, 08:58 am GMT +0200
Can i humbly ask for your professional opinions please.  :-[
I just designed a new website; not sure though if I've overdone it here.
Is this just looking cool? Or is it over designed?
 
If you can spare a minute; please have a look at : http://www.kohtaomotorbikes.com/

Thanks a lot.

YMC
Sun 8 June 2008, 09:53 pm GMT +0200
Unless something isn't loading for me I don't see what you are talking about. It doesn't look over-designed to me.

The only places I might play with if it were mine would be to make the orange text more red and less orange like the banner, as it is now it looks a bit washed out. That blue you are using in the logo (the stripes) might look nice too.

The yellow background in the comment boxes is a surprise as one scrolls down the screen - might want to play with that too.



samiotis
Mon 9 June 2008, 03:24 am GMT +0200
Thanks for the input - you are right, darker orange does look better. Tried the blue but also had 'washed out' effect. I can't see any yellow background in the comment boxes or fields though. Neither in firefox nor ie7. What browser are you using??

designer
Mon 9 June 2008, 02:28 pm GMT +0200
Not over-designed, I think it's under-designed... But the header is too busy imo, and I think you could use a better site logo... I like the rest of the colour scheme though. I think all you need is a better header...

GiorgosK
Mon 9 June 2008, 04:05 pm GMT +0200
No site is not overdesigned, maybe under

I have to agree with designer, Logo Letters are way too big
I think they ought to be smaller

One other thing I would change would be to put a different background color
on the content to make it different from the sidebar

otherwise it looks good

YMC
Mon 9 June 2008, 10:30 pm GMT +0200
Thanks for the input - you are right, darker orange does look better. Tried the blue but also had 'washed out' effect. I can't see any yellow background in the comment boxes or fields though. Neither in firefox nor ie7. What browser are you using??

You're welcome, I like the darker orange. The yellow is showing to me in the name and email fields. Are they 'required' and perhaps handled differently? I'm using Firefox/2.0.0.14 on a PC running XP.

samiotis
Tue 10 June 2008, 03:05 am GMT +0200
:-) I knew it was a good idea to ask you here! - thank you all. I applied some changes according to your recommendations and it does look better now.
I removed the text in the header, so the logo letters wouldn't be as dominant anymore.

I don't want to change the logo size though - Design vs. Logo Recognition - The logo hangs physically out in the street, so it's important that people recognize the logo at first glimpse when they pass by or look for the shop. There's a 'rent a bike shop' every 50 meters! Huge competition.

- Changing the logo itself is out of the question since the shop exists with this logo since ten+ years... - Branding.
- The Yellow??? No idea! Does anybody else see yellow in the comment fields? I tried logout on firefox, no yellow... mysterious since there is no yellow in the css.

Thank you all for your time and tips.

samiotis
Tue 10 June 2008, 03:21 am GMT +0200
@ YMC - Have you got any 'auto fill fields' activated on your browser?

YMC
Tue 10 June 2008, 03:33 pm GMT +0200
Uhm, I don't know. Where would I have set that? I don't think I did anything with the settings.

samiotis
Wed 11 June 2008, 04:37 am GMT +0200
Usually the field become yellow when an 'auto fill' is activated either over the google toolbar or with some sort plugin or software. I guess you have google toolbar installed on firefox and activated the auto fill option in the google toolbar options (right side - magnifying glass)

If my assumption is correct, your browser should show fields on other websites in yellow as well.
As i mentioned before, there is no yellow in my css, so it must come from your browser somehow. :-)

designer
Thu 12 June 2008, 09:00 am GMT +0200
Would you give me link love if I give you a banner/header idea while maintaining your logo/branding up top?


samiotis
Thu 12 June 2008, 12:51 pm GMT +0200
Sure Thing, Designer! :) Good ideas are always welcome.

designer
Fri 13 June 2008, 06:23 pm GMT +0200
Here is my recommendation, thinner and more contemporary. This is just a suggestion however...


samiotis
Fri 20 June 2008, 05:20 am GMT +0200
Sorry to have you waiting, Designer.

Even tough it does look nice and I'm thankful for your idea and suggestion, we will stick to the header image that we have now.
Motorbikes is all about action and moving and i find your logo suggestion to 'quiet' if you understand what i mean.
I've also built a subconscious message into the header logo from what we hope to convince at least some tourist to use a helmet while riding on a motorbike in Koh Tao. The roads are not the worlds best here and especially after heavy rainfall we also get a lot of 'motorbike fall'. Tourists seem to think that if they're in Asia and in holiday, they don't really need to apply to any laws and sure not the helmet law; it's hot here. Now one could say, "Ok- only rent bikes out with helmet" - Done! , than the customer just turns around and walks into the next shop where nobody talks about wearing a helmet. On a n island like Koh Tao, where you can rent a bike at every 50 meters of the way you walk, we need another way to convince people that a helmet is first of all good for them!
Lederhosenbikes + Helmet = Fun! This message is missing in your logo.

Thanks again, all of you, for your tips & suggestions from what I've learned and also applied many of the suggested changes :)

Vilice
Wed 30 July 2008, 03:42 am GMT +0200
" Site not found "
What's wrong ???

samiotis
Wed 30 July 2008, 05:07 am GMT +0200
Nothing wrong with the site. Maybe the server was down... They are servicing some stuff and are running announcement since a week or so. Thanks for mentioning, it works now...

yourbeboskins
Tue 2 September 2008, 01:13 am GMT +0200
i think your site needs a revamp. its under designed at the moment and could do with some updating.

McHow2
Tue 2 September 2008, 04:39 am GMT +0200
I think you'd have to elaborate that a bit to make it understandable. Your statement is in this case also a bit under designed ;)

shokosugi
Sun 5 October 2008, 06:15 am GMT +0200
It doesn't look over designed to me. Although a suggestion, you can make the logo a little bit less attention grabbing :)

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