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Providence
Tue 12 September 2006, 04:53 am GMT +0200
can you have their ads on your site with adsense?

Nikolas
Tue 12 September 2006, 07:41 am GMT +0200
I think you can, as they don't serve contextual ads.

Providence
Wed 13 September 2006, 03:48 pm GMT +0200
Has anyone here tried to use them?

Nikolas
Wed 13 September 2006, 03:51 pm GMT +0200
Has anyone here tried to use them?

Not me :)

vbignacio
Thu 15 March 2007, 02:21 pm GMT +0100
so you're not using it still? if you do already, are they better earners compared to adsense in terms of monthly revenue?

Nikolas
Thu 15 March 2007, 02:22 pm GMT +0100
I haven't used them, but as far as I know there is no better CPC program than adsense ;)

vbignacio
Thu 15 March 2007, 02:29 pm GMT +0100
actually it is not CPC. its like selling text links from your site.

Nikolas
Thu 15 March 2007, 02:34 pm GMT +0100
You are right. What I mean is that adsense is better in most cases.

Programs like tla or cpm programs are better for high traffic web sites.

vbignacio
Thu 15 March 2007, 02:52 pm GMT +0100
i wonder if olaf is doing better with TLA compared to adsense.

me, they priced the text links from my philippine beach blog at $25/month for each link (8 links total). if they can sell the 8 links, thats $200/month. then we'll split it 50/50 so thats $100/month for me. i saw the other sites with a high Alexa rating selling links for $250/month.

but then it also depends on whether an advertiser will pick your site to place their links on.

olaf
Thu 15 March 2007, 03:15 pm GMT +0100
so you're not using it still? if you do already, are they better earners compared to adsense in terms of monthly revenue?

It depends on the type of website, I sold never a link on finalwebsites but a few on all4yourWebsite.com

vbignacio
Thu 15 March 2007, 03:43 pm GMT +0100
i see. so which earns better for all4yourWebsite.com on a monthly basis? TLA or Adsense?

olaf
Thu 15 March 2007, 03:52 pm GMT +0100
i see. so which earns better for all4yourWebsite.com on a monthly basis? TLA or Adsense?
TLA

vbignacio
Thu 15 March 2007, 04:00 pm GMT +0100
how about you tim? whts your say on TLA?

ventureskills
Thu 15 March 2007, 04:17 pm GMT +0100
I haven't used TLA so couldn't say other that the concept is a clever one, and I intend to use it in the future on one of my personal sites so watch this space

vbignacio
Fri 16 March 2007, 12:57 am GMT +0100
thank you Nik, Olaf and Tim for your replies.

Koby
Fri 27 April 2007, 06:30 am GMT +0200
I use TLA and sometimes people by an ad on my site and sometimes they don't.
I get paid anywhere from $20 to $25 a link.. I've been paid twice in the past 4 months.
So in 4 months I've gotten $45 from TLA and on Yahoo Adsense W/e.. I've gotten $106 for 4 months.

olaf
Fri 27 April 2007, 07:32 am GMT +0200
I use TLA and sometimes people by an ad on my site and sometimes they don't.
I get paid anywhere from $20 to $25 a link.. I've been paid twice in the past 4 months.
So in 4 months I've gotten $45 from TLA and on Yahoo Adsense W/e.. I've gotten $106 for 4 months.

Hi,

20 or 25 dollar is very much, (because you get only 50% from what the advertiser has to pay)

you must have website / blog with a good traffic / pagerank...

Koby
Fri 27 April 2007, 07:47 am GMT +0200
Yeah my main website gets in excess of 2,500+ unique visitors on average in a day, with a Page Rank of 5

Was PR6 in the past but had some issues with a host and had alot of downtime, changed hosts and whatnot and hopefully we will get that PR6 back!

olaf
Fri 27 April 2007, 07:50 am GMT +0200
Yeah my main website gets in excess of 2,500+ unique visitors on average in a day, with a Page Rank of 5

Was PR6 in the past but had some issues with a host and had alot of downtime, changed hosts and whatnot and hopefully we will get that PR6 back!

cool! I have some sold sitewide ads on a PR5 site with let traffic and het only $15 each link :(

I think it's also related to subject from a website

Nikolas
Fri 27 April 2007, 11:29 am GMT +0200
PR is not so important with them. After all the ads are displayed through javascript. Right?

Koby
Fri 27 April 2007, 11:34 am GMT +0200
They use an .xml file to send the urls to your site.. then a php script that calls the urls from the .xml

Nikolas
Fri 27 April 2007, 11:39 am GMT +0200
Oh I see. Probably I remembered this for another company (adbrite)

olaf
Fri 27 April 2007, 11:50 am GMT +0200
PR is not so important with them. After all the ads are displayed through javascript. Right?

you're a little wrong my friend :D

TLA accepts only website with a PR because the links are real! :)

Nikolas
Fri 27 April 2007, 11:51 am GMT +0200
Yeah I just realized that ;)

vbignacio
Sat 28 April 2007, 12:51 am GMT +0200
i removed tla from a site of mine. i dont get it how they pay you. first i sold three, and they said my links are worth $15 each (8 for sale). but the three links they sold is only worth $12 each. so my stats say my earnings is $36. when i looked again it only reflects $2 because the links just lasted only a few days but when i looked at my site, the three links are still there on my site for free! so there, i removed it.

olaf
Sat 28 April 2007, 08:29 am GMT +0200
i removed tla from a site of mine. i dont get it how they pay you. first i sold three, and they said my links are worth $15 each (8 for sale). but the three links they sold is only worth $12 each. so my stats say my earnings is $36. when i looked again it is only it only reflects $2 because the links just lasted only a few days but when i looked at my site, the three links are still there on my site for free! so there, i removed it.
Vince, it was better to send a mail to support, Patrick is very helpfull to publisher and advertisers, but maybe now it's to late ;)

vbignacio
Sat 28 April 2007, 01:10 pm GMT +0200
maybe i will check their feed in a few days...

GiorgosK
Mon 21 May 2007, 02:08 am GMT +0200
Nikolas if you are referring to TLA, I am pretty sure they are displayed as hard links.

I have been accepted to TLA ($25 per link) but their directory of advertisers is very big and small publishers get lost in there; of course the big advertisers that have money to spend don't want to go with small blogs like mine either;  so I decided to take the code off and I have actually managed to sell a couple of links myself ;)

About a month ago TLA announced privatelly a new program which I think advertisers get to pick words as hard links to their sites and publishers actually get to accept them or not (I am part of it but have not seen anything yet).

Another info some people might not know is that TLA are the same company with auctionads.com and reviewme.com (just for you info) 

olaf
Mon 21 May 2007, 06:10 am GMT +0200
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About a month ago TLA announced privatelly a new program which I think advertisers get to pick words as hard links to their sites and publishers actually get to accept them or not (I am part of it but have not seen anything yet).

what is that program?

Nikolas
Mon 21 May 2007, 11:33 am GMT +0200
In general I don't think it is too hard to sell links by yourself, right?

I have used services to sell links in my sites in the past, but nothing helped like a few posts in webmaster forums :)

olaf
Mon 21 May 2007, 11:58 am GMT +0200
In general I don't think it is too hard to sell links by yourself, right?

I have used services to sell links in my sites in the past, but nothing helped like a few posts in webmaster forums :)
yes right, I guess you have more sales that way but TLA & co. is less work ;)

vbignacio
Mon 21 May 2007, 01:50 pm GMT +0200
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their directory of advertisers is very big and small publishers get lost in there

youre right. i think if ever i would sell links again, id do it on my own like what Nik does.

GiorgosK
Mon 21 May 2007, 08:30 pm GMT +0200
Olaf, the program is called inlinks but its not advertised anywhere, but if you are a member they send you the email to download the code for it. (don't know what the deal is and they are being so secretive)

Selling links on your own I think its so much better and it costs less to your client (can actually go so much lower then the TLA program gives you and still get more then they would give you).  I realized setting up a paypal subscription takes away the burden of having to remember when is the next payment due and actually collect it.  So now I am hassle free ....

Still there is an advantage having being accepted in such programs TLA, buy-selltextlinks.com/, reviewme.com etc you have a link pointing to your domain ;)

olaf
Mon 21 May 2007, 09:04 pm GMT +0200
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Olaf, the program is called inlinks but its not advertised anywhere,

I guess you mean the new blog post links, they are much cheaper than regular links. These are very new and they didn't have the same functionality than regular links.

But you're right the first site is very hard to get approved.

olaf
Mon 21 May 2007, 09:44 pm GMT +0200
I must say they are much better than for example Adbrite (not only because these are direct links). I use TLA also as advertiser and must say if you have a good placement you have also a good source and a direct PR4 or higher link from a related site. They are also very straight in refunds if some publisher has removed the link or the whole website :)

while the company is very big you can contact (if needed) Patrick Gavin directly and he is very helpful. Maybe the need to stop sending the welcome letter by ord. mail after every order...lol

codeberg
Thu 9 August 2007, 02:58 am GMT +0200
There referral programme is quite useful, I've made several hundred dollars so far.

dan
Thu 1 November 2007, 10:04 am GMT +0100
The 50% commission they take keeps me away I will never use them, that's highway robbery if you ask me!

salestrainer
Sun 27 July 2008, 01:07 am GMT +0200
Does google penalize you for selling links on your site?

olaf
Sun 27 July 2008, 09:21 am GMT +0200
Does google penalize you for selling links on your site?
yes, there is also a special form on the G webmaster site to trport people buying/selling links (selling pagerank)

salestrainer
Tue 29 July 2008, 06:48 am GMT +0200
So what is the best way to sell links? Also, does it hurt your page ranking if you do?

olaf
Tue 29 July 2008, 07:56 am GMT +0200
So what is the best way to sell links? Also, does it hurt your page ranking if you do?

sell ads using JS code ;)

salestrainer
Wed 30 July 2008, 05:47 am GMT +0200
So if my number one goal is quality traffic that wants to read my blog content, what would be the best tool? TLA, something else?

salestrainer
Wed 30 July 2008, 05:48 am GMT +0200
Please remove, my browser hiccuped and I posted a dupe

olaf
Wed 30 July 2008, 08:33 am GMT +0200
So if my number one goal is quality traffic that wants to read my blog content, what would be the best tool? TLA, something else?

sell traffic/links via forums, all these programs doesn't work (in my opinion)

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