pr checker on google toolbar and websites.

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          google toolbars shows pr2 for my site and other(websites which checks pr) show pr3 for my site. I am confused. how they do it. WHich one is true pr.

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Every data center of Google has different values for pagerank (in some cases)

To see what's the real you should use a tool like this :

http://www.seochat.com/?option=com_seotools&tool=9

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or this google module :

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yeah nicolas i belive in that kind of pr checker. But my fren have a google toolbar with in the internet explorer and that shows the pr of the site which is open in the browser. that shows 2 for my site.

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yeah nicolas i belive in that kind of pr checker. But my fren have a google toolbar with in the internet explorer and that shows the pr of the site which is open in the browser. that shows 2 for my site.

yes that's possible because the google toolbar checks only again 1 server information (Nick correct me if I'm wrong) while the suggested scripts are check against the information on all google servers.

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Actually there is a seperate datacenter for the toolbar queries, and each other datacenter (the search datacenters) has it's own pagerank database.

In any way the most innacurate of all these is the toolbar.

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Actually there is a seperate datacenter for the toolbar queries, and each other datacenter (the search datacenters) has it's own pagerank database.

In any way the most innacurate of all these is the toolbar.

yes, I know (you remember our first contact Nick, hehe)

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so guys to which should i trust?
 

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so guys to which should i trust?
 

thats up to you
but trust only one!

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anyway, pagerank doesnt really matter anymore these days.

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anyway, pagerank doesnt really matter anymore these days.

I don't agree with this, a website with a high pagerank is very much attractive for link trades for example.

And you say that a site with a low pagerank will listed high inside the google results (like a site with a higher PR)?

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And you say that a site with a low pagerank will listed high inside the google results (like a site with a higher PR)?

That happens very often. Because pagerank is a number that describes all of your links, but SERPs have pages with relevant content.

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And you say that a site with a low pagerank will listed high inside the google results (like a site with a higher PR)?

That happens very often. Because pagerank is a number that describes all of your links, but SERPs have pages with relevant content.

Maybe I need to know what exactly is a SERP (in relation with your prev. comment)

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SERP = Search engine result page

Let me give you an example of what I mean :

Let's say that your site is about php. You have x incoming links to this site from php related sites and z incoming links from sites that are related to affiliate programs.

On the search term about php google will not count the z links to its algorith, as those sites are totally inrelevant.

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OK I understand, that will say that first results are related sites with realated links followed by related sites with a higher PR and less related links?

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Yeah something like that.

If you check the SERPs there are many times that sites with no pr at all are in front of sites with high pr....

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Yeah something like that.

If you check the SERPs there are many times that sites with no pr at all are in front of sites with high pr....

hm.. not in this case: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+scripts&btnG=Google+Search

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this is similar:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=trampolines&btnG=Search

But I noticed that there are a lot of results from amazon and ebay :-(

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That's not out of this rule.

I mean there are sites that have high pr but all of their links are coming from relevant sites.

This example fits with resourceindex (my favourite), hotscripts, etc.

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"OK I understand, that will say that first results are related sites with realated links followed by related sites with a higher PR and less related links?"

there are two ways to optimize a site for the SERPs, in-page optimization and off-page optimization. with my experience, yahoo and msn gives more weight to in-page optimization while google, off-page. but even thou in-bound links matter to them, they have link-aging where even if you buy plenty of one-way incoming links, it will not land your site in page 1 of their search results immediately...

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