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« on: Jul 15, 2006, 04:53:43 pm »
Hello,

Last few days I added some more pages to my website and I think I mess it up...

The problem I have is that a part of my site is in english language and one part in dutch language. Actually I like to splitt the site but I'm afraid that I will loose serps. The other problem is that I have three parts in this website:
 - info about me as developer (and also my company)
 - information with affiliation purpose (offering books and trainings)
 - open source scripts and information
I think about to change my main page to kind of portal, the base content will be in dutch language and other must me be a part with clear navigation for the english content. But is this clear enough to my international public? (actually this will an update of the current situation)

any advice what is the  best solution? translation of all text regarding the scripts is no option (too much work)
this is my current situation: http://www.finalwebsites.com/

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 15, 2006, 07:34:52 pm »
My advise is not to split the languages in the same page.

Instead use two versions of the site for each language.

Check topsites greek and english version. There are also some modules in the one site that the other don't have, but this is ok.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 15, 2006, 07:48:50 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Jul 15, 2006, 07:34:52 pm
My advise is not to split the languages in the same page.

Instead use two versions of the site for each language.

Check topsites greek and english version. There are also some modules in the one site that the other don't have, but this is ok.

I understand, but currently there are on the same domain. That will say I start with the current one and have language switch? or its better to have two domain names (2 index pages)?

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« Reply #3 on: Jul 15, 2006, 07:49:46 pm »
Two domains can help with search engines, but be carefull not to mislead the visitors Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 15, 2006, 07:51:18 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Jul 15, 2006, 07:49:46 pm
Two domains can help with search engines, but be carefull not to mislead the visitors Smiley
That's what I think, there must be a link between both sites...

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 15, 2006, 07:55:54 pm »
but there must also a link from the dutch site to several english pages and visa vi

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« Reply #6 on: Jul 16, 2006, 10:50:49 am »
and what about all the inbound links they are all to the current (dutch) main page?

I think I need first a clear main page in both languages (maybe with a search box since my website is very well indexed)...

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 16, 2006, 12:58:03 pm »
Quote from: olaf on Jul 16, 2006, 10:50:49 am
and what about all the inbound links they are all to the current (dutch) main page?

I think I need first a clear main page in both languages (maybe with a search box since my website is very well indexed)...

Yes, but you should be carefull not to mislead the user.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 16, 2006, 01:07:19 pm »
what about internal links from my main page, I thought that these are very important for google and otrhers

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« Reply #9 on: Jul 16, 2006, 01:11:41 pm »
Quote from: olaf on Jul 16, 2006, 01:07:19 pm
what about internal links from my main page, I thought that these are very important for google and otrhers

Try to keep the same hierarchy you allready have, just split it to two sites with two different languages.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 16, 2006, 01:57:47 pm »
right but currently I have menu items in my main page about dutch and english pages. If I splitt these items in two languages some of them are gone from the main page

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« Reply #11 on: Jul 16, 2006, 02:12:14 pm »
That's not a problem. I guess having in one page several languages is worst both for humans and search engines.
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 16, 2006, 03:26:50 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Jul 16, 2006, 02:12:14 pm
That's not a problem. I guess having in one page several languages is worst both for humans and search engines.
Until now it was not a problem for searchengines...

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« Reply #13 on: Jul 16, 2006, 05:07:34 pm »
But, wouldn't having more than one page with the same content, even if in different languages risk a dup content penalty? Or are the search engines not that clever, yet?
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 16, 2006, 06:27:14 pm »
Quote from: YMC on Jul 16, 2006, 05:07:34 pm
But, wouldn't having more than one page with the same content, even if in different languages risk a dup content penalty? Or are the search engines not that clever, yet?
No, the same content in two languages is not content duplication.

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« Reply #15 on: Jul 16, 2006, 07:53:35 pm »
I don't think that a search engine can see that.

Even if they could, it would be a waste of resources to do so, plus it is not neccessery as having the same content is several languages is something good.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 16, 2006, 08:38:56 pm »
Cool, I didn't know that.
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 16, 2006, 08:43:57 pm »
@YMC, what do you think about the (future) navigation of my website? how do you solve situations like this?

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« Reply #18 on: Jul 16, 2006, 09:45:03 pm »
something else, I think I build a kind of portal page as a kind of second (english) main page, I have a lot of links to the url http://www.finalwebsites.com/snippets.php and I want to redirect this traffic to the new portal page. Is this OK for search engines?

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« Reply #19 on: Jul 17, 2006, 12:22:45 am »
Just created the english main page (the portal)

http://www.finalwebsites.com/php_portal.php (not everything is translated)
this page will become visible too in someone follow this link: http://www.finalwebsites.com/snippets.php

is this navigation clear enough for international and dutch visitors?

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