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« on: Sep 07, 2006, 05:23:37 PM »
Hi,

finally I get my renewed php mail class working, but I can't get of the problem that the mail ends in the junk mail box in MS outlook.

The strange thing is that this happens not for 100 %, some outlook clients accepts the mail within the inbox and others not.

I have two computers here in the network with the same version of Outlook: but one accepts the mail and thother moves the mail to the junk folder.

does some a knew a good resource where I can find information (please don't tell me to use phpmailer, this happens with phpmailer too if you use the mail() function)
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 07, 2006, 05:30:01 PM »
Is this propably something that happens anyway when you send image attachments?
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 07, 2006, 05:36:43 PM »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 07, 2006, 05:30:01 PM
Is this propably something that happens anyway when you send image attachments?
yes a mail with html embeded images and a attachment
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 07, 2006, 05:43:07 PM »
I think this is the problem.

If you send an email with no attachments or embedded images it wont be marked as spam
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 07, 2006, 09:17:05 PM »
I will check it tommorrow with and without (embeded) attachments
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:51:36 PM »
OK here a summary from some test's:

first I send a html e-mail with embeded images and an attachemnt to different outlook users:
me: junk
collega (same network): inbox
collega (at home): junk
friend (somewhere): inbox

you see this is not logical

no I send some different mail (only to me) all with the same addresses (but this time the mail is not send in the CC or Bcc:
1. text mail with attachment -> inbox
2 text mail -> inbox
3. html mail with embed images -> inbox
4. html mail with embed images and attachement -> inbox
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it looks like the proble is that the mail is send via cc or bcc...
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:03:18 PM »
So I guess the problem is solved (at least for now)
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:04:50 PM »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 08, 2006, 01:03:18 PM
So I guess the problem is solved (at least for now)
until I send mails via the cc Sad
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:14:32 PM »
I tried it:

I send a Cc to collega in the same network:

html mail without images and one zip attachment, works fine but a html email with embeded images and no attachements has reached my inbox but is junk at the outlook from my collega, will say something is wrong with the images?
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:17:07 PM »
Does the html body has <html>, <head> and <body> tags?

If yes remove them as they are cathed as spam by most of the spam filters.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:32:46 PM »
I found the problem, the content id of each image needs the a trailing server name like:

Content-ID: <part1.04080306.03060607@finalwebsites.com>

if this server name does not exist or is different from the message content ID then it looks like spam for Outlook.

(by the way this is a kind of PHP thread without php code, maybe I need to post some Wink)
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:34:01 PM »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 08, 2006, 01:17:07 PM
Does the html body has <html>, <head> and <body> tags?

If yes remove them as they are cathed as spam by most of the spam filters.
I think a buggy html should be a problem for a lot of webclients...
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 08, 2006, 01:36:43 PM »
Yes it is difficult in our days to send legal mailing lists (while spamming seems to be very easy....)
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