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« on: Sep 07, 2006, 04:23:37 pm »
Hi,

finally I get my renewed php mail class working, but I can't get of the problem that the mail ends in the junk mail box in MS outlook.

The strange thing is that this happens not for 100 %, some outlook clients accepts the mail within the inbox and others not.

I have two computers here in the network with the same version of Outlook: but one accepts the mail and thother moves the mail to the junk folder.

does some a knew a good resource where I can find information (please don't tell me to use phpmailer, this happens with phpmailer too if you use the mail() function)

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 07, 2006, 04:30:01 pm »
Is this propably something that happens anyway when you send image attachments?
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 07, 2006, 04:36:43 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 07, 2006, 04:30:01 pm
Is this propably something that happens anyway when you send image attachments?
yes a mail with html embeded images and a attachment

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 07, 2006, 04:43:07 pm »
I think this is the problem.

If you send an email with no attachments or embedded images it wont be marked as spam
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 07, 2006, 08:17:05 pm »
I will check it tommorrow with and without (embeded) attachments

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 08, 2006, 11:51:36 am »
OK here a summary from some test's:

first I send a html e-mail with embeded images and an attachemnt to different outlook users:
me: junk
collega (same network): inbox
collega (at home): junk
friend (somewhere): inbox

you see this is not logical

no I send some different mail (only to me) all with the same addresses (but this time the mail is not send in the CC or Bcc:
1. text mail with attachment -> inbox
2 text mail -> inbox
3. html mail with embed images -> inbox
4. html mail with embed images and attachement -> inbox
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it looks like the proble is that the mail is send via cc or bcc...

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:03:18 pm »
So I guess the problem is solved (at least for now)
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:04:50 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 08, 2006, 12:03:18 pm
So I guess the problem is solved (at least for now)
until I send mails via the cc Sad

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:14:32 pm »
I tried it:

I send a Cc to collega in the same network:

html mail without images and one zip attachment, works fine but a html email with embeded images and no attachements has reached my inbox but is junk at the outlook from my collega, will say something is wrong with the images?

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:17:07 pm »
Does the html body has <html>, <head> and <body> tags?

If yes remove them as they are cathed as spam by most of the spam filters.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:32:46 pm »
I found the problem, the content id of each image needs the a trailing server name like:

Content-ID: <part1.04080306.03060607@finalwebsites.com>

if this server name does not exist or is different from the message content ID then it looks like spam for Outlook.

(by the way this is a kind of PHP thread without php code, maybe I need to post some Wink)

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:34:01 pm »
Quote from: Nikolas on Sep 08, 2006, 12:17:07 pm
Does the html body has <html>, <head> and <body> tags?

If yes remove them as they are cathed as spam by most of the spam filters.
I think a buggy html should be a problem for a lot of webclients...

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 08, 2006, 12:36:43 pm »
Yes it is difficult in our days to send legal mailing lists (while spamming seems to be very easy....)
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