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« on: Dec 06, 2006, 05:51:00 am »

Hi everybody,

I am a little bit confusing when I see Search Engine Result Pages (SERP) of my other website.  Google's SERP for my web's position is 25, MSN gives 11, but Yahoo doesn't give a position at all...  Shocked

Would you please help me how to manage this SERP ?
Is there any other tips to let Yahoo index our web better?

Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 06, 2006, 08:40:11 am »


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« Reply #2 on: Dec 06, 2006, 10:25:26 am »

A first problem I see to your site, is that most of the pages have the same title.

You should change the <title> for each page, so they wont be the same.

If this is a new site, then you should propably give some time to the bots, and make sure to help them by getting some links to your site. For example you can submit it to directories, and some social bookmark services (eg. delicious)

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 06, 2006, 04:20:50 pm »

With my new sites, MSN usually shows up and indexes first. Google comes next and starts ranking the site on the low side. Yahoo then comes sniffing around but does not seem to index in the early days.

As the Google rankings increase it seems like MSN decreases. Somewhere along the line Yahoo starts putting pages in their index - homepage first.

It just is a waiting game.

You can push it a bit by putting signature links, submitting to a few new directories (they approve faster) or even a few directories that automatically post.

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« Reply #4 on: Dec 07, 2006, 01:14:11 pm »

With my new sites, MSN usually shows up and indexes first. Google comes next and starts ranking the site on the low side. Yahoo then comes sniffing around but does not seem to index in the early days.

I'm not sure about that, Live search (msn) is nearly always the last to crawl we have found, though hopefully with all 3 big players adopting sitemap finding pages should help though the crawl times probably wont change.

Do submit sites to the big 3 don't just wait for them. Google is probably the hardiest to get to a high SERP but through careful links and promoting the site in signatures etc you can garner some links, also try creating associated myspace, del.icio.us and wordpress pages you may initially gazump yourself but in the long run (and if you update them) they will pay dividends.

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 07, 2006, 05:19:05 pm »

Ventureskills, that is exactly the bottom line of SEO. Google don't want links to rank you, but relative links.

From my experience I have realized that you can have a few inrelevant - high pagerank - incoming links, and many relative - in terms of content - links from non pagerank pages or even very deep links.

This way you "convince" google that your page is "strong" in the subject that is about.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 07, 2006, 09:36:47 pm »

Ventureskills, that is exactly the bottom line of SEO. Google don't want links to rank you, but relative links.

From my experience I have realized that you can have a few inrelevant - high pagerank - incoming links, and many relative - in terms of content - links from non pagerank pages or even very deep links.

This way you "convince" google that your page is "strong" in the subject that is about.
right check "php upload" on Google... the reason for this high listing (finalwebsites.com) is not a few high PR links but hundreds of low ranked but related links

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 08, 2006, 10:31:27 am »

right check "php upload" on Google... the reason for this high listing (finalwebsites.com) is not a few high PR links but hundreds of low ranked but related links
If you have a story write about it in a blog, all it takes is a few other blogs to write about it for you to see some link love, oh and don't forget forum links due to the way they work, they often don't use no follow tags in signatures where as Blog comment systems do.

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« Reply #8 on: Dec 08, 2006, 10:38:38 am »


If you have a story write about it in a blog, all it takes is a few other blogs to write about it for you to see some link love, oh and don't forget forum links due to the way they work, they often don't use no follow tags in signatures where as Blog comment systems do.

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