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« on: Jan 21, 2007, 03:10:58 PM »

I found this interesting article in my reader today and thought I would share it.
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Cameron Olthius recently posted about the rise of “made for digg” sites, a phrase coined by Ethan Kaplan, who points out Knuttz as an example. Alister Cameron looked into the Knuttz site and gives a breakdown of how this site funnels visitors in such a way to encourage digg votes.
Are pages designed for Digg a bad thing, creating landing pages for pay per click campaigns has been the norm for years as is optimising keywords on pages for search engines is optimising a page or site for Digg any worse?


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« Reply #1 on: Jan 21, 2007, 03:31:42 PM »

I don't think is bad to optimize a site for Digg, but as the traffic that Digg sends to a site is not really good, I don't think it is so important to do so.

Digg's traffic has very low convertions, and it is almost impossible to be on page #1 every day, no matter what optimization you are doing Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 21, 2007, 03:38:08 PM »

Digg's traffic has very low convertions, and it is almost impossible to be on page #1 every day, no matter what optimization you are doing Smiley
Digg does have low conversions for advertisment, to many web savy techies but it has a pretty good call to action rate if you provide the incentive a good example is the conversion-rate-experts.com Digg aimed http://www.conversion-rate-experts.com/articles/101-google-website-optimizer-tips/ Visit through proxy the action was never to get this techie savy group to click on a text add, but rather to join their mailing list, it was I believe very successful to.
But I think your right about not always being on the front page, but for a specific call to action it can be a very useful tool, and on one of our clients blogs about quater of his daily traffic 300+ visitors come from digg.

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 05, 2007, 07:12:48 AM »

i think a made-for-digg-page is bad when it comes to overall internet goodness.  To make the Internet a "Goo Place" every page should be made to be best for a user.  In the utopian Internet where every webmaster in the world just worried about making great user pages, not worrying about search engine or social media sites, the everything would be perfect.  In the real world though, you do have to think about Google and Digg. 

It takes a certain balance.  if all you do is worry about users and ignore search engines and social media, no one will find your site.  If all you do is worry about search engines and social media and ignore users, people will find your site, but hit the back button and never return.

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« Reply #4 on: Feb 05, 2007, 10:03:17 AM »

i think a made-for-digg-page is bad when it comes to overall internet goodness. 
Do you think advert campaign landing pages are bad? or are these one of those necessary evils?

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 05, 2007, 04:45:26 PM »


Do you think advert campaign landing pages are bad? or are these one of those necessary evils?

I think they are very useful.  Again, not something that is really good for the user if he stumbles across it, but it would be sill if you are selling something and did not have a good landing page for it. 
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 05, 2007, 05:33:40 PM »

ok, so how is a made for digg different?
I might not be so openly selling but all the principles are the same?

sorry just curious why people seem to react differently to advert targeted landing pages to social media targeted pages.

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« Reply #7 on: Feb 06, 2007, 04:27:46 AM »

ok, so how is a made for digg different?
I might not be so openly selling but all the principles are the same?

sorry just curious why people seem to react differently to advert targeted landing pages to social media targeted pages.

I don't think they are different.  They are a good thing to do if you want to make sure you get the most out of social media, just like landing pages are a good thing.

They are only bad in a perfect Utopian view of the net.  If every web master only created the most user friendly pages using pure white hat SEO techniques, and search engines were perfect at finding things, these types of pages wouldn't be needed.  In the real world you want to be making landing pages and made-for-digg pages on your sites.
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 06, 2007, 09:13:44 AM »

Optimizing for social bookmarks can really help a web site. To define that kind of optimization, I mean giving to the visitor all possible ways to social bookmark your site(eg. using addthis buttons) or even post a myspace bulletin promoting your site.

Recently I have experiment with that thing, and the results were much better than I expected. Without any promotion work - or submitting myself the site to social bookmarks - the traffic raised from 2k to 5-10k per day which is very good.

The interesting part is that even that the conversions are much lower than normal traffic, a small portion of these visitors are returning to the site, plus there are many people who blog or post in forums about your site which is of course good Smiley

So in general being included in social bookmarks can raise the traffic for a long time. And for some reason if you make it to get in a site's homepage (eg. digg) will normally put you in other sites too.

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« Reply #9 on: Feb 06, 2007, 04:47:59 PM »

Recently I have experiment with that thing, and the results were much better than I expected. Without any promotion work - or submitting myself the site to social bookmarks - the traffic raised from 2k to 5-10k per day which is very good.

How did you experiment without submitting or promoting?
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 06, 2007, 04:52:51 PM »

Recently I have experiment with that thing, and the results were much better than I expected. Without any promotion work - or submitting myself the site to social bookmarks - the traffic raised from 2k to 5-10k per day which is very good.

How did you experiment without submitting or promoting?

I've just optimized the site, added social bookmark buttons etc. and waited for someone to pay some attention Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 06, 2007, 04:56:17 PM »

a good indicator of well optimise social media landing page is that you don't have to submit it!

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