Making a living off the internet is it possable?

 Are you just running the 6 proxy websites off of it? Or are all your websites on the server? The reason why I ask is I am trying to get a idea on what one server can handle. I would love to do proxy websites for the money but I would want to be able to develope other websites as well and not have them suffer from the proxy websites.

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Are you just running the 6 proxy websites off of it? Or are all your websites on the server? The reason why I ask is I am trying to get a idea on what one server can handle. I would love to do proxy websites for the money but I would want to be able to develope other websites as well and not have them suffer from the proxy websites.

My Plan is to host there not more than 8 proxies (curr. 7) and also other sites (arcade, myspace, bigger files)

thats why I need that ram upgrade, from 5pm till 11pm (CET) the server is very busy now

but CPU usage and server load is very cool

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their is another way to make money with proxies and keep bandwidth low, but it requires a hell of a lot more work

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I got out of the main stream proxy business and instead now have 4 Proxies they are located 2 US, 1 Europe, 1 Australia.
Each is a dedicated server running both a web based proxy and squid set up.

I then run a "security club" this club has membership fees which are where I make my money and in exchange they get access to the proxies, now the reason its a lot more work to convince people to stamp up cash every month, they have to believe you are giving value for money so for that money they get...

Access to those proxies,
hardware based firewall, anti spam and mail filtering (basically they can access our VPN and run life through that)
in addition to running through the proxies they can also request to be passed through the tor network (this is done server side, and is an option in the members area)
A nice magazine (no I'm not joking)

Price well I'm not going to say but its more then I would have ever got running multiple proxies and its guarentted every month, I currently have a waiting list with more then 50 names and the network never has more then 25 subscribers at any one time.

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Interesting concept Tim. I was thinking to create something similar, but it is just sitting as an idea as I don't have enough time to develop it.

It only works if you aim at high end user group, our clientèle is a mix of Security engineers, people based in parts of the world that have access issues, specialist web site owners and a few individuals who just want some basic security and privacy and are willing to pay for it.

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I guess you can use the "freaky" web proxies to promote that kind of service...(get some rich porrn surfer form the middle east as customer )

true, but its a can of worms I prefer not to open, while clients privacy from prying eyes is the "clubs" first concerned we also don't allow using our services for certain "activities" and we do watch occasionally

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true, but its a can of worms I prefer not to open, while clients privacy from prying eyes is the "clubs" first concerned we also don't allow using our services for certain "activities" and we do watch occasionally

right that is the bad site of services to provide some privacy, there are several webmasters getting in touch with the FBI because some user has used their proxies

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At least I don't know someone who make serious money from such sites, and the reason is the duplicate content.

i do.

The only way to achieve that with MFA is going black hat, and I wouldn't recommend that to anyone as it will probably cost you your adsense account.

it is also possible with grey hat techniques. and your account will not get banned. here is a tip with adsense: pick a not so competitive niche and hitch a ride with an authority website like Squidoo.

My oldest proxy is 9 month old and has still visitors (500-1000 a day)

That sounds good.

Yes you can certainly make a lving, but you have to work hard and spend hours everyday treating it like a job for at least 2 or 3 years.  You have to really take it serious and learn SEO and become creative etc etc.  You can't spend 2 or 3 hours online on one website and expect to make a thousand bucks a month after one year.

If by making a living you mean via one or more websites of yours the answer is: definitely NOT.
I understand many may disagree, but let me explain my point. After all, there can be some rationale in it. And oh, english not my native lang, ok?

The hearth of business is advertisement. Firstly because if people doesn't know you're there they won't reach you at all, secondly because people have a deeply engrained need for being encouraged and reassured about their own judgements (self confidence doesn't abound), about being corrected and guided (tutors are appreciated even by adults...), about being told that they can trust (if i say to you go to that shop and buy, you won't - but if your best friend or a stellar superstar does, you run and buy).

That is called advertising, and unless you can pay for it, and it costs dearly because in these matters if you invest 5,000 it is just as throwing it out of the window, you can forget success. It doesn't even matter how good or bad your product is.
For instance, myspace is definitely bad - as far as design is concerned and the mess of profiles that can be done there. Yet, it is still today constabntly advertyised, and of course when you reach a core of users, say a few thousands, it may start taking off on its own.
You can sell people a camel for 6 millions, if there is Pam Anderson on tv saying it is so convenient a deal.

So, as long as you can't advertise, you may have the best product in the world, no one will buy it. Simply.

Making a living out of websites is impossible because when you start making a living because you have invested lots of dough in ads, then i wouldn't call it making  a living: then you're making a grandiose life - then if that means spending all in golf and drinks or in helping the others too, it's your choice (i'd advise for the latter). A website that works, is potentially a source of millions.

You may ask why one sells a website. Well, make the math. In italy a few years ago, i think in 2006 they sold www.splinder.it
The website generated a "mere" 100,000 a year in banners, with barely 120,000 users. Do you know the price it has been purchased by dadanet? 4,5 Millioooooooons

This is why people sell them. The of course, you can also sell a minor site for a "whopping" 4,000 bucks, but you won't 'make a living' out of that, for with the raising prices we have, at the first unexpected expense or bill you meet, your 4,000 will vanish in thin air.
Which of course does not happen to 4 millions.

You will never make a life with a website, unless you can advertise it properly - if you can, you will make infinitely more than a life, and you could even make the difference for many other persons.

Al
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Al I really miss your point in your post. It is obvious that a site that makes money requires advertisement, but the best advertisement methods are free. The real thing that costs when making sites that earn money is the hours you have to spend in order to learn what you have to do.

Al I really miss your point in your post. It is obvious that a site that makes money requires advertisement, but the best advertisement methods are free. The real thing that costs when making sites that earn money is the hours you have to spend in order to learn what you have to do.

Every body always misses the points in my posts and notifies me. It depends entirely on the fact i truly think out of the pack, and i do not have a tendency that many have (not that i am implying it would have been your case uh!) to embellish the pill.

He will never make money out of a website unless he has lots of money to advertise it or he finds an investor for it. That's the way big business works, since ever. If by making a living he means making 4,000 a year, he may do those only after years of big efforts. And i won't call it making a life.

But if he wants to make really a life out of it, then he has to invest and dearly in advertisement or he goes nowhere. Cheap ways to be advertised lead to cheap websites with cheap income. I know this as a fact :-)

And as for free advertisment, it doesn't exist. It's a urban myth that a man with zero funds can make a million for free and with 'free' adveritisng. If it were the case, we would all be millionaires alredy.
 He can try post here and there a few addresses to his website, but nobody will care about it. There is a reason a rockstar gets paid 10 millions to run a spot on tv ...

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Al I will disagree with you. I live from internet, and even that I spend some money on advertisement, my income/traffic comes from free sources. I don't think money can do what social media can do for free in terms of promotion, and that's why there are so many people that with minimal investments earn money from internet.

The advertisement the way you are calling it, is more needed in the traditional business models.

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