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« on: Oct 23, 2007, 01:43:27 PM »

Would that be against the terms of service ?

this is how it would work

first an adsense ad is displayed when the page loads
10 seconds later ajax loads some other ad
10 seconds later ajax loads some other ad
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 23, 2007, 01:46:18 PM »

I think it is against TOS. Maybe it is not if the first ad is adsense and the others are not (in other words adsense wont "pop up") but you will have to contact the google team to ask them.

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 23, 2007, 03:40:40 PM »

I don't think that those ads will show up...

I tried twice to show an adsense ad with some ajax contact form (after the form is send)


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« Reply #3 on: Oct 24, 2007, 12:09:49 PM »

I have asked them about google being the first and cycling through google ads and they said OK in both

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You're welcome to rotate ad code. Keep in mind that we ask that you not
artificially inflate your ad impressions.
...

I am a little worried though that rotating only google ads, they will not be that relevant to the context ...
So I will have adsense as the default and rotate some other ads


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« Reply #4 on: Oct 24, 2007, 12:12:56 PM »

I have asked them about google being the first and cycling through google ads and they said OK in both

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You're welcome to rotate ad code. Keep in mind that we ask that you not
artificially inflate your ad impressions.
...

I am a little worried though that rotating only google ads, they will not be that relevant to the context ...
So I will have adsense as the default and rotate some other ads


before you create somthing big try a first example to show adsense ads via ajax (it doesn't work for me)


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« Reply #5 on: Oct 24, 2007, 12:14:33 PM »

Olaf I think I just going to have adsense first and cycle through the others

Are you saying the google ad won't display ??

I will let you know


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« Reply #6 on: Oct 24, 2007, 12:19:04 PM »

Olaf I think I just going to have adsense first and cycle through the others

Are you saying the google ad won't display ??

I will let you know

yes right with my ajax forms it looks like that a (Javascript)ad which is loaded via the innerHtml method will not show up


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« Reply #7 on: Nov 02, 2007, 09:29:28 AM »

sorry for being late, I usually miss/confuse the dates with SMF forums ...

Adsense support said OK and I actually did it using the innerfade plugin of jquery
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take a look at the top example, its actually a rotating adsense + referral


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« Reply #8 on: Nov 02, 2007, 09:54:34 AM »

Looks good, and I think it will increase the CTR too. But does the google bot understands which page to crawl?

I may try this with different colored adsense ads.

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 02, 2007, 12:30:00 PM »

Looks good, and I think it will increase the CTR too. But does the google bot understands which page to crawl?

I may try this with different colored adsense ads.

yes it will, because the code in in the html and doesn't come via xml request



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« Reply #10 on: Nov 03, 2007, 02:13:46 AM »

IMPORTANT please note

I have changed the implementation
Not original AJAX solution anymore ....

read the answer from the adsense support
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You're welcome to rotate ad code. Keep in mind that we ask that you not
artificially inflate your ad impressions.

You should know that our specialists carefully monitor clicks and
impressions on Google ads in order to protect your interests as well as
those of our advertisers. To do this, we use both automated systems and
human reviews, analyzing all ad clicks and impressions for any invalid
click activity that may artificially drive up an advertiser's costs or a
publisher's earnings.
---------------------------------------------------
I highlighted the inflation of impressions since

I was worried that through ajax I would artificially inflate adsense impressions (since some of the ads pay per 1000 views) and get banned .... be carefull

I just load ONE adsense ad and my other non contextual ads together with the page and rotate/display/hide them with javascript

But I must say it seems like it had the adverse effect from improving CTR Huh?

So to answer Nikolas question its not Ajax as I said in the beggining of the thread, it does pose a problem as to what the bot would crawl if its an Ajax implementation ....
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 03, 2007, 11:34:18 AM »

So, it seems that this is not safe to use with rotating adsense ads. But I guess it may help with 1 adsense unit and a few affiliate programs or CPM advertisers.

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 03, 2007, 12:35:12 PM »

So, it seems that this is not safe to use with rotating adsense ads. But I guess it may help with 1 adsense unit and a few affiliate programs or CPM advertisers.

but does this strategy help to raise your earnings? Wink


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« Reply #13 on: Nov 03, 2007, 12:40:31 PM »

Maybe it does. For instance if you display one affiliate banner at the beginning and after a few seconds display an adsense ad, I am sure this ad will have better CTR.

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