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« on: Apr 28, 2008, 06:33:32 AM »

The next Google algorithm update seem to be in progress. Not that I'm foolish enough to think that Google isn't constantly updating it's algorithms, but this one seems to be different.
Different because it happens on all language layers simultaneously. I just got off the phone with an SEO company in Germany. It was more of a panic call. Websites that have been on page one for there main keywords and keyword phrases, suddenly drop to page 5 and 6. I can also see massive position changes on many of my own sites and none of them for the better.

Anybody else experiencing droppings lately?
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 28, 2008, 11:36:50 AM »

I saw a drop in google traffic in the beginning of the month, but then everything came back to normal. Now that you mentioned that I've checked my main keywords in G and they are still there.

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« Reply #2 on: Apr 28, 2008, 12:55:14 PM »

Newer sites seem to be easier to get towards the top than keeping the old ones up there. Eventually we will be forced to publish new articles every day. While that might be ok for bloggers and Internet marketers, it will become a problem for company websites. Especially low budget companies with no in-house webmaster will suffer consequently.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 28, 2008, 08:48:25 PM »

Newer sites seem to be easier to get towards the top than keeping the old ones up there. Eventually we will be forced to publish new articles every day. While that might be ok for bloggers and Internet marketers, it will become a problem for company websites. Especially low budget companies with no in-house webmaster will suffer consequently.

That is true Samiotis, I have seen it happen.  Blogs with really nothing to tell coming up on top of legitimate companies just because they update frequently. Solution all companies should get a blog ....

I have not seen any update going on though ...


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« Reply #4 on: Apr 29, 2008, 07:10:34 AM »

I like your solution so far Giorgios. Just who is going to pay for it? How are you telling that to your clients since it means ton's of more work for the webmaster?
WordPress came up with a solution; you can now send a simple e-mail to your blog to post an article. That's kind'a cool so actually once the blog is designed and setup, all a company needs an article writer who can send e-mails with pictures, that's it.

But hey, can you imagine Mercedes blogging their way up the ranks? Wink
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 29, 2008, 09:13:42 AM »

threads like this just make me want to bang my head against the wall and is the reason I no longer post things SEO related here.

Please guys if your going to talk such fud do it at digital point, big algo changes do not happen suddenly small ones happen constantly, drops and gains happen all the time just because some numptie at digital point page drops does not constitute a major change. Blogs ranking and the dropping like stones has been a feature of Google for over a year now and is one of the major techniques for Search Hijacking.
If you got a call with an SEO company in Germany then you got top ask why panic? if they were then they know sweet fa about search engines and can go back to like many on this forum have started to sell their snake oil.
Now can we please have sensible SEO discussions once more Smiley stop the FUD you will be whitering on about the Alexa rank changes next and how your search rankings dropped...

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 29, 2008, 09:42:09 AM »

Which horse pissed in your bed this morning? Wink Hey, what a 5 star mood. A post that inspires everybody to come here to talk! You should run Google ads for it...
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 29, 2008, 10:36:35 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: Apr 29, 2008, 07:15:28 PM »

At the risk of getting trampled by this horse you both are talking about...

I see SEO as a continuing war where the person who can react properly to algorithmic changes will be able to gain greater placement and additional visitors.

I have seen during the past couple of days a huge influx of search engine traffic on one of my newer sites despite a lack of promotion on my part (no apparent Stumble, Digg or other socially-related issue going on either). The site currently sits at a whopping PR of 0. Again, my fault alone - April has brought me quite a bit of writing business and my own sites have to come second to my clients.  In the end, I don't really care if the site ever gets visible PR as long as it keeps gaining in the SERPs and getting converting traffic.

I agree that there's no use in panicking every time a site goes up or down in the results or PR changes but I think conversations based on observations rather than wild speculations are useful to trying to keep changing tactics as Google changes its algorithms.

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« Reply #9 on: Apr 29, 2008, 07:45:07 PM »

I see it more like a computer game; rather than a war. Lots of my friends play games for hours, i just can't find the excitement in that. You win - You loose - Either way you gain nothing but a headache. Much more fun to manipulate Google a bit. I opened a new blog yesterday and i found my digg on nr1 this morning. The actual blog is still on 8 but that's not bad for a 24 hour job is it?

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« Reply #10 on: Apr 29, 2008, 09:24:58 PM »

I wish it were only a game but there's too much money at stake to treat all of this crap as a game.

Sit down sometime and try to explain to someone who does not know the web very well and it quickly becomes apparent how ridiculous all this PR, SERPs, and SEO stuff really sounds. It does sound like some sort of child's game, particularly the part about sites being rated based on how many backlinks they can get. It's forcing businesses to waste time and money playing a very serious version of "mine's bigger than your's". The sad part is that in many ways we did this to ourselves.

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« Reply #11 on: Apr 29, 2008, 09:42:10 PM »

Google helped a bit Smiley for the rest you're absolutely right.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 30, 2008, 02:01:17 AM »

Google just laid out "the rules" - a link is a vote which in theory makes perfect sense

but in practice can be manipulated, and it really is the human nature to discover, to find the best way, to find the easiest way to the top


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« Reply #13 on: Apr 30, 2008, 05:49:39 AM »

I love Greek philosophy. SEO & Nature - Only the best get to the top and only the most persistent stay on top. hmmm...
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