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« on: Sep 30, 2008, 08:53:37 AM »

I'm a member to quite a few forum on different topics, I noticed that there are a lot of Human Spams on these forums thread, including here at webdigity.

There are those who just copy parts of several replies on a post and then repost it together, then there are those quote whores who just quote someones reply then add a generic reply like "Yeah you should look in to that" and then there are actually smart canned replies to definition questions they ask themselves wherein they register two different users of the same spamming factory.

Human spam factories including Captcha input factories are caused by cheap labor to countries where people are hired to input captchas or reply on forums for a small fee. Now if we can't get rid of bot spammers, we got a new problem.

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 30, 2008, 12:15:06 PM »

Hi designer,

I send today an email to Nick, because I noticed a lot of them. My suggestion to nick was a function that each moderator is able mark/hide spam posts very quickly. At this moment removing spam takes more time than the spammer needs to post his spam Grin


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« Reply #2 on: Sep 30, 2008, 06:43:29 PM »

Well let me tell you. Here at webdigity we had a lot of registrations this month which have the same behaviour :

1) They were all coming from the same page
2) Using the same host in India
3) having gmail accounts
4) Posting 3 posts with a "signature" in the end (not a real signature but a few links in the end of each post)

As this is very annoying I just banned their whole host. Hope they wont change ISP soon because I don't have time right now to write a script to eliminate them now Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 30, 2008, 06:46:39 PM »

I think this should be a success, don't think they have so much ISP's in india


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« Reply #4 on: Sep 30, 2008, 08:56:25 PM »

Perhaps they'll drop Webdigity from whatever list you're on once they figure out that this forum is so well moderated? Seems like they would move on to a forum where their efforts yield better results.

I wonder too if making it more clear that there's a 200 post requirement for signatures to show that it might discourage some of these folks. Yes, it won't stop the ones who add their "signature" into the post but it might discourage them from trying?

Also, can't the moderators simply delete the entire message rather than having to edit out the links?
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 30, 2008, 08:58:25 PM »

Don't think that those guys get paid for result, it's more the quantity they have to fill...


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« Reply #6 on: Sep 30, 2008, 09:00:02 PM »

But, doesn't that quantity include the actual number of links gained?

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 30, 2008, 09:54:38 PM »

But, doesn't that quantity include the actual number of links gained?

no the number of links submitted Cheesy


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« Reply #8 on: Sep 30, 2008, 11:31:49 PM »

I believe Olaf is right. If a customer pays them for 1000 links he/she will think that the 10 extra visitors the site will get is a success. After all who is going to check if the "seo company" actually submitted to so many sites....

Michelle, they don't use actual signatures, but they are putting a few links in the end of each post

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 30, 2008, 11:48:00 PM »

This latest group wasn't using signatures but there's been others who have. I know how aggravated I am with these folks on my blog and directories it must be even worse for forum owners.

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 30, 2008, 11:53:37 PM »

lol we have all type of spam on this forum Cheesy


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« Reply #11 on: Sep 30, 2008, 11:56:57 PM »

All except automated (thanks god for this)

In the tattoo site I own, I have 2-5 bot signups per day and there is a CAPTCHA filter too.... And the bad thing there is that most of the spam posts are p0rn related, so we are ok here Smiley

Anyway if the problem insists I will write a script to eliminate this. In any way we want this community clean and friendly only to webmasters Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: Oct 01, 2008, 07:52:34 AM »

Well an IP ban is a good step. These people are actually paid per Thousand Link Spams, but it doesn't matter because they hire people with measly pay that they site around all day just spamming.

And yeah, Captchas aren't the best way to protect anymore for them since they already hire people to read captchas and break them.

I noticed though that quick moderation seems to deter them, they do come back but less frequently or from a different human spam factory...

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« Reply #13 on: Oct 01, 2008, 11:14:48 AM »

My suggestion is let them do it and on one seating just remove all garbage. But one thing is for sure that spam is part of internet business and this will prevail till the intrenet prevail.

You cant remove them unless and until you are very strict and convey a message to the spam poster that even a single spam post can cause banned to them.

Or you can fix a limit amount of posting for a new members. Review them and than allow further postings. I saw on some forum that they make introduction post as mandatory. Members who post copy and paste stuff got banned.

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« Reply #14 on: Oct 01, 2008, 11:17:18 AM »

I would never make the site worse for the real members in order to fight spammers. This would be a "victory" for spammers, and our members would not be sattisfied, don't you think?

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« Reply #15 on: Oct 01, 2008, 11:23:33 AM »

I think it should be a mix: block bad spammers (if possible) and edit post. Important is that this kind of moderation must be easy with min. in affort of time.
Sending warnings to spammers is spending just more bandwidth and time...

(I'm really happy that bbpress has great functions for handling spam) Wink


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« Reply #16 on: Oct 01, 2008, 03:07:49 PM »

Spammers seem a little quiet lately, I guess they are now contemplating their next move, lol!
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 02, 2008, 10:19:31 AM »

Honestly I cannot wait until my forum has these issues. Abusive human spam is definately a sign of siuccess.
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